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1. How many snakes do you own?
2. What kind of snakes do you own?
3. What is your favorite and why?
4. If I could have any snake I wanted it would be a __________.
5. Your favorite snake dance partner?
6. Do you breed or plan on breeding you snakes?
1. How many snakes do you own?
2. What kind of snakes do you own?
3. What is your favorite and why?
4. If I could have any snake I wanted it would be a __________.
5. Your favorite snake dance partner?
6. Do you breed or plan on breeding you snakes?
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Re: Ssssssoooooo..... How many do you have?
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:37 PMooo I will be interested in everyone's responses to this!
I have none snakeypies :(
But still, to quote a lolcat........ WANT
I've been so busy the last month or so, school and dance, and work have been taking up all my time. I thought to myself 'this is a good thing, get busy and consumed with something else, and then if your desire to have a snake goes away then you know it was just a 'thing' you were going through'........... well it hasn't gone away! Mind you, I've been occupied enough that I don't think about it constantly, but every time I see a snake on tv, or see this tribe as I'm checking messages I think "boo to not being able to own one yet!".
Hopefully one day soon.
In the mean time I shall live vicariously through all of you :)
Nie
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 12:38 PMI have two snakes. One male bp (Titus) and one female Caulkers Cay Boa (Innana). There is no way that I could pick a favorite one I love them both!! I would love to have a rainbow boa. I have not danced with my snakes at a show, but would love to one day. I will keep practicing with them until then. I have not planed on breeding them, I would have to find someone else close to accomplish that task.
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 2:11 PM1. I have 6 snakes at home, and one on loan at my husband's office.
2. I have 4 ball pythons at home (one of which is a pastel, and two of which are rescue snakes). I also have two blair's phase gray-banded kingsnakes (one is a Radio Tower locale - which means he's a light slate gray with bright orange, and the other is a Crockett County locale - which means he's almost black with bright orange). The one at the office is a very friendly Mexican Black kingsnake.
3. Boris, my slate gray & orange gray-banded king is my favorite, as he was my first snake. And since I started with the kings, I love their energy when we're dancing together. (The ball pythons are my daughter's favorites, and her dancing partners.)
4. A 6 foot gray-banded kingsnake with the heavier body of the ball python - no such thing! :)
5. Boris - we just know each other so well now after dancing together 6 years.
6. Nope - I'd like to breed gray-bandeds, but you REALLY have to know what you're doing with them, 'cause if you put them together when they're not in the mood for breeding. one might eat the other. I couldn't bear that! :)
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 5:00 PMI have 1 redtail boa but live with 3 ball pythons and several other reptiles (belonging to my boyfriend)
Nephthys is my favorite of all the snakes I have ever had the pleasure of living with over the years.
The only other snake that I'd like to have is a savu python.
Nephthys and I do not curretly dance together as she is recovering from some nasty rat bites (before we met). I am hoping that as she heals more she'll be a dancer.
I have no intentions to breed my snake.
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 6:11 PM1. 10
2. BCO-BCI's- BP's-BRB-PMM (pine snake)
3. My first snake Rashwan BP
4. If they ever breed a tiny Bermese Python, you know one that only gets around 6-7 ft I love one. LOL
5. Osiris
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 7:48 PMSelimah, I have been looking up loads of Candian breeders lately (found some leads on the Irian Jaya's yay!) and I remember seeing someone talking about breeding dwarf and super dwarf bermese pythons. I'll see if I can find the page again and send you a link :) As far as I remember this was something new they had been working on with a specific bloodline, but I think they had already had one or two clutches. -
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 7:51 PMooop dang, I was wrong, they weren't bermese they were reticulated sorry :(
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 10:11 PMThanks Nienna, One of my friends here have a dwarf retic he is nice. I think retics ar elovely too, but I like the burms. LOL
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Thu, May 22, 2008 - 8:10 AM1. 7 snakes currently own me :)
2. 2 Big Boas (common boas), 2 ball pythons, 1 Honduran Milksnake , 2 smaller boas (likely bci)
3. Hard to say which one I love the most! I love the boas due to their demeanor, they love to be handled, and are so calm and gentle and lazy! The Milksnake is such a character, like a little kid on too much sugar (spazzy snake!), and my BPs are so timid that I really have to take my time with them, sometime I rarely do for myself so it has double good effect to handle them).
4. To have my Reggie back with me. I miss that snake!
5. Since Reggie died, Autolycus has become my newest dance partner:
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6. Not interested in breeding. No offense to the breeders out there but after working in rescue and seeing how many
'cute babies' end up without homes once they 'grow up' and become full sized, I am totally against breeding (outside of conservation breeding). -
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Fri, May 23, 2008 - 7:46 AM1. 3 snakes
2. 2 BPs and 1 Amelanistic Corn
3. I love my BPs best, they are lazy and easier to handle.
4. I'm still holding out for a Rainbow Boa, just gotta move into a bigger place first.
5. Kha will always be my favorite dance partner, we've been dancing together almost 5 years.
6. No real interest in breeding the BPs, I understand it's difficult and I'm not up to the task.
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Fri, May 23, 2008 - 8:13 AM1. How many snakes do you own? As of this weekend, 10
2. What kind of snakes do you own? 2 Rosy boas, 2 pure Columbian Red Tails, 2 Columbian Red Tail Morphs, 1 Gray banded King snake, 1 Sumatran Blood Python and 1 Ball Python
3. What is your favorite and why? >dont tell< my favorite snake is Narah, shes a boa morph and the snake I have owned the longes
4. If I could have any snake I wanted it would be a: Albino Red Tail
5. Your favorite snake dance partner? Narah, Hanesh, Manasa and Akasha
6. Do you breed or plan on breeding you snakes? Nope. -
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Fri, May 23, 2008 - 10:56 AM1. I have 4 snakes
2. All Ball (though, being a Leo, I prefer Royal) Pyhtons. Gomez, Morticia, Lily & Apophis
3. No favourites, they each have their own unique charms
4. I'd love an Emerald Tree Boa, but my house is at maximum animal capacity
5. They all love to dance, but Morticia is the biggest, so is best for stage presence
6. No plans to breed
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Mon, June 2, 2008 - 5:28 PMWhen you say red tails, are they BCI's or BCC's?
Only BCC's (ie: Guyanan or Suriname) are considered as red tails in the UK so just curious, as most boas have red tails really?
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Mon, June 2, 2008 - 5:22 PM1. Three
2. Adult amel corn snake (Tango), Young Guyanan BCC boa (Khan - currently just over 4ft long), and an Adult Guyanan BCC boa (Sheba - 6.5ft)
3. Khan because I've had him since he was tiny and he's so laid back!
4. Sharp strain albino boa (which I'm currently saving up for!) I'd also love a snow boa, or a leucistic royal python - but would never be able to afford one unless I won the lottery!
5. I've only danced with Tango so far, Khan will be my first proper dance partner once he's a bit bigger.
6. I plan to breed BCC's next year hopefully. Once I have my sharp albino, and a hypo het albino partner for her I also plan on breeding them a few years down the line (het albino, albino, and possibly some Sharp sunglow offspring from those!)
I'm stopping at the 4 boas as I think that'll be my limit really, plus I couldn't really fit any more in my reptile room!
I also plan to breed the BCCs one year, and Albino's the following year (and keep alternating) - so each mother has a year off to recuperate... plus it won't be so many babies for me to manage all at once too!! -
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Tue, June 3, 2008 - 12:38 AMIn the U.S. the pet trade refers to most boas as red tails but are not true redtails. Many people do not know the difference. I have BCI's Boa Constrictor Imperators not BCC' s Boa Constrictor Constricors (true red tails). I am sure many here do not even know the differance. But they are different subspecies.
reptileguides.herpcenter.com/sho....php
Also when talking about morphs be specific. There are so many different kinds of morph color patternsout there, to say you have a morph is very vauge, it means nothing unless you specifically know what kind of morph.
Like Hu my hypo BCI male is possible 66% het for albino. May simply mean he may be nothing but hypo in coloration. But! boy! oh! boy! If he really is het for albino, an dI breed him to my albino, we are looking at Sunglows and Albinos.
Asha, we are planning on breeding the same thing. Only mine are Kahl Albino. LOL
Take time to really know your snakes, you could be telling someone incorrect information. I correct people when they look at my snakes and say nice redtails, I say no! Boa Constrictor Imperators. But thanks! -
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Tue, June 3, 2008 - 1:00 AMAsha, have you seen the Super Motley's??? @@ I Think that 's what I want next. LOL Someday!
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Tue, June 3, 2008 - 4:12 PMYeah, "RedTail Boa" or "Columbian Red Tail" was sort of an advertising sceme created by the pet trade in this country. Boa "Constrictor" sounds much less friendly than "Red Tail". Go ahead, try and say Red Tail without smiling
Many are refered to as Columbian even if the people refering to them have no idea of the snakes origin. A fair number of the BCI's available are a cross of a number of localities. Very few breeders start with or keep to pure locality bloodlines. Many of the Morphs were created by crossing different localities.
For those playing along at home:
Morph is an abnormal pattern or color that can be reproduced in offspring.
HET is short for hetrozygous, which means that the snake carries the gene for a "morph" from only one parent. In most cases this means the snake will appear completely normal.
66% HET or any other % HET means that the snake has a chance to carry the gene for a "morph". In other words if you cross two snakes that are HET albino (both parents appear normal). Probability would say you should for every 4 offspring, 1 albino, 2 HET albino, 1 normal.
So, of the three that are not albinos 2 (or 66%) are HET albino and any of the offspring from this pairing that were not albinos would be refered to as 66% HET albino.
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Re: Ssssssoooooo..... How many do you have?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 1:04 PMWow what a cool questionaire! I love reading the responses. As for me I only have 1 snake (nonmorph BCI) female named Naga. She's about 1 year and 8 months old now and is roughly 5 feet long though I haven't measured her lately. She's mostly a sweet thing but I made the newbie mistake of feeding her in her cage when she was younger and though things were fine for the first couple of months she soon learned that when the lid came off it was most likely time for dinner. She has a grand appetite and will often strike at the glass even before the lid comes totally off. Sigh. She's gotten me once before when it first started happening but I'm careful now. I have been giving her rats a little bit larger than her girth every 7 days so I am pretty sure it's not starvation. Anyway once she knows it's not food time, she settles down and goes about her business when she's out so I don't worry about her biting me then. I just need to kind of deflect her with a stick until she realizes it's not dinner time. I recently was able to purchase the right size tub to feed her in. How long do you think she'll realize THAT's the box to eat from and for her to stop striking in her actual cage? We're planning to move at the end of the year and when we get our new house, my hubby is going to build her, her permanent cage witch will have front access instead of top access. I'm hoping that'll switch her up too.
Anyway, back to the questionaire.
1. one snake
2. BCI. I closely work with a eastern kingsnake, a red rat snake, and an albino red rat snake. Soon well be adding indigo snake to our collection!!!
3. Wow that's hard. Though I have to say BCI's are my favorite. I like their temperment as a general rule. Even though mine is a biter I understand it was all my fault. Perhaps if I had the time to handle her more often than I do she might not have gotten that habit in the first place. Also if I knew about the strike box that would've solved all issues to begin with.
4. Ohhh, any snake? A cobra. Really, any cobra lol. Realistically and well for me unstupidly I would love to have a Burm if it was a dwarf. I love retics too but even as a dwarf they're a bit too big for me. If I won the lottery I'd so get a spider morph royal python.
5. I have in the works a plan to get my snake used to dancing with me. I just need to get off my lazy butt and do it. I have danced with my work partner pearl the albino rat snake so that satisfied my cravings lol. She's a striking partner because you can barely see any markings and so she's pure white. Plus she's a good five feet long to boot!
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Sat, June 14, 2008 - 6:34 AMI only feed in separate plastic boxes for my smaller snakes (corns etc)... for the boas I figure it's pretty pointless. They aren't actually stupid enough to think your hand is food unless it smells/tastes of food. Personally I think the 'associating every cage opening as food' thing is very over-exaggerated.
I'd be much more wary of feeding a 8ft adult boa in a separate container, and then having to move it back into it's vivarium afterwards - not only could it still be in feeding mode and bite, but it also has a full belly and could regurge.
For this reason all my boas are fed in their normal enclosures... but all of mine are in wooden vivariums with front-opening sliding glass doors. My boa vivs have 6mm toughened glass just in case too.
For problem boas I'd consider 'tap-training' or 'hook-training' as it's sometimes referred to - this helps them know when to expect YOU and when to expect food.
Either buy (or make) a simple snake hook. Every time to go into the enclosure to clean, change water, or to pick up the snake for handing you gently tap the body with the hook so it knows to expect you.
When going in with food is the only time you DON'T tap. On feeding day you should also avoid cleaning/water changes - so the only reason you go in on that day is with the food. It's very simple, but an effective way of training them not to attack you! -
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Sun, June 15, 2008 - 7:13 AMMost keepers that I know do not use strike boxes to feed. I have experimented with them and have noticed no difference in the chance of being bitten.
I have a boa that is more than 6 years old nearly 8ft and has never been fed anywhere besides in his enclosure and I have absolutly no worrys when I open the door and stick my hand in front of him.
Others vary but once I let them know I am not feeding them (by touching them some with the hook and others by hand) they calm down very quickly.
Some snakes that are problem feeders may become less likely to eat if they are removed from their home. Very large snakes can be extremely dangerous to move when you are feeding them.
The whole "strike box theory" suggest that the snake will learn to associate the opening of its enclosure with feeding and will strike at what ever enters. So, you take them out put them in a seperate enclosure and when that enclosure opens food enters. If they cannot tell the difference between your hand and a rat why would they be less likely to strike at you when you open the strike box to place them back in their enclosure. -
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Sun, June 15, 2008 - 6:29 PMA friend of mine uses the tap method and it works well.
We used to put one of my boas in a strike box but she bit my hubby every time he tried to put her back in her enclosure anyway. So now we leave her in her enclosure and feed. But when we are just petting or visiting she is fine.
So none of my 10 go into strike boxes anymore. I used to think it was a good idea, now that I own so many I see no point in it. Besides snakes are smarter than most people think. They know when they smell a rat. LOL -
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Sun, June 15, 2008 - 6:55 PMReasons to feed in a strike box:
-- removes the possibility of accidentally ingesting substrate (for those of us that have natural looking habitats with wood shavings)
-- removes the possibility of accidental deaths between snakes in enclosures with multiple snakes
-- along with the strike box, you want TOTALLY eliminate any connection between your hand entering the cage, and food, so use tongs to drop the item into the box. I have 4-5 different pairs, but I use 2 of them the most - the real longs one for the big boas, and the mediums for everyone else. It is also far more sanitary to use tongs....
The thing about making sure to move the snake to a strike box, is not just to get his used to eating elsewhere, but if the ONLY time your hand goes into the cage is to drop a food item, them they will make the association that your hand contains food. A snake's brain is barely the size of a pea, and while they might recognize your scent, and/or realize you do not smell like their food item, they are wild animals that rely on instinct, not logical thought processes and strike boxes are the safest manner to feed MOST snakes. I wouldn't do it for a big burm, but for just about anything smaller, I would advice to use a strike box.
Sorry to those that disagree but I STRONGLY encourage everyone to feed in a strike box. Unless you are very experienced, and handle your snake s lot, it is too easy for feeding mistakes to be made (and I think I have made more than my share, even with 20 years of handling). My reptile rescue volunteer experience changed me for ever and I will tend to use strike boxes for everyone, no matter what.
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Tue, June 17, 2008 - 3:22 AM-- my boas are all kept on newspaper, so no risk of swallowing substrate. The corn is on wood chips, but this can be easily overcome by placing food on a sheet of newspaper, kitchen towel, or a feeding tile.
-- i don't believe in housing snakes together (except for breeding) as there's too many problems that can occur (sickness, stress, etc) - snakes don't NEED friends at all.
But yes, if you do have multiple occupants I would never consider feeding inside the viv - ALL should be fed in seperate strike boxes, so they don't return to an enclosure smelling of food and still in feeding mode.
-- tongs are a must anyway, food is only ever placed in my enclosures using tongs - and I let the snakes eat at their own pace (no strike feeds for the boas, the corn does though). far more sanitary to use tongs, and your hands/fingers will never accidentally smell of rodent so less risk of accidental bites. i don't think snakes are stupid enough to assume hands could be food, they smell/taste a rodent on the air before I get near the enclosures in most cases. if they constantly strike at a persons hands, it's more likely due to feeling threatened... not thinking of you as food. -
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Wed, June 18, 2008 - 3:43 AMRecent studies then to suggest that snakes are much more intelligent then people generally give them credit for. The idea that snakes are mostly just muscle, reflex and instinct is based on some fairly old information.
Originally snakes were given test similar to what they use on rats, birds ect and they did extremely bad on these test. The conclusion was that snakes lacked the brain power to form even simple thoughts.
Fairly recently some researchers wondered if possibly it wasn't a lack of intellegence that caused the poor performance. Maybe the test did not make sense to the snake. They restructured the test and found that snakes can solve problems learn and remember things.
The conclusion was that snakes are at least as intellegent as the animals they prey on, rodents,birds, small mamals, ect. they simply have a completely different way of thinking. So basicly, if you could teach something like a rat to do it, a snake could learn to do it if you could figure out a way to explain to the snake why it should want to in the first place.
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Wed, June 18, 2008 - 5:51 AMThis difference in learning style probably has something to do with their ability to sense heat. I've seen lots of studies about this on discovery channel and so far it seems that this sense doesn't work quite the way scientists first thought, so I can see how their first intelligence tests on snakes may have come back with false findings.
On a different note, my boyfriend and I are looking into a house that we reeeeeeeeeeally reeeeeally want but we have to hear back from the mortgage broker and lots of other things so it's faaar from official (oh fingers crossed fingers crossed) BUT IF if if it works out it will mean that I'm that much closer to being able to get a snakey of my own :D (once I manage to save enough money lol)
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